tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post112932486764311138..comments2023-07-30T08:23:44.275-04:00Comments on Perspectives In Motion: Oh, how the mighty art fallenDL Fosterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10646672420003320521noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129598927589684122005-10-17T21:28:00.000-04:002005-10-17T21:28:00.000-04:00Come on, do a little work for yourself. Underneath...Come on, do a <B>little</B> work for yourself. Underneath the story, is a whole list of ADL press releases which excoriate Farrakhan. Take your pick, I cant list ALL of them in one post. Farry is no friend of mine so I could care less, just pointing out the the mess he has made by trying to have a "big tent" feel with all the fueding inlaws is messy.DL Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10646672420003320521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129505053514762852005-10-16T19:24:00.000-04:002005-10-16T19:24:00.000-04:00Interesting enough the Anti Defamation League (ADF...<I>Interesting enough the Anti Defamation League (ADF) has excoriated Farrakhan for even having the march.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually they only condemned his choice of leadership, according to your link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129422085360259142005-10-15T20:21:00.000-04:002005-10-15T20:21:00.000-04:00Vesti,You messed up again. Sorry, still in the del...Vesti,<BR/>You messed up again. Sorry, still in the delete box.DL Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10646672420003320521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129420376828827212005-10-15T19:52:00.000-04:002005-10-15T19:52:00.000-04:00Vesti,try it again. Comment on the post.Hopefully ...Vesti,<BR/>try it again. Comment <B>on the post</B>.<BR/>Hopefully that will keep you out of the deletion box.<BR/>Hugs, kisses and tickle back at cha!DL Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10646672420003320521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129420241678234182005-10-15T19:50:00.000-04:002005-10-15T19:50:00.000-04:00to nameless faceless anonymous whoever you are:I w...to nameless faceless anonymous whoever you are:<BR/>I will delete your comment if your comment has nothing to do with the post at hand. I hope that you and others will be intelligent enough to subscribe to that simple rule. If you want a shoot out at the OK corral, I suggest to park your guns somewhere else. Deletion is but a mere exercise to me.DL Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10646672420003320521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129340001851926302005-10-14T21:33:00.000-04:002005-10-14T21:33:00.000-04:00I’m not quite sure what your point was with all of...I’m not quite sure what your point was with all of that am certainly not prepared to go deep into the weeds disputing it. My grievance was with the expression that <B><I>“Gay activists hounded, branded, cajoled, threatened and wept angry tears until finally Farrakhan gave in.”</B></I> To me, this overblown rhetoric was more than a little silly. These groups “wept angry tears”? Please, spare me. Why shouldn’t gay activists aggressively lobby to be included in a prominent black movement? And why shouldn’t Farrakhan expand his horizons and (gasp!) perhaps even dial back some of the homophobic rhetoric he has espoused in the past? You claim that this once “mighty leader” has been brought low by his seemingly more conciliatory attitude towards the gay community. I respectfully disagree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129335575117854042005-10-14T20:19:00.000-04:002005-10-14T20:19:00.000-04:001. Since the beginning of the year, Robinson has b...1. Since the beginning of the year, Robinson has been lobbying the Millions More Movement leaders to include his group and other black gay leaders in the event’s planning process. Up until this week, Robinson said, Farrakhan and his top aides have ignored Robinson’s overtures.<BR/>Black gays in D.C., led by activist Phil Pannell, have waged a simultaneous effort to persuade Millions More Movement officials to recognize an ad hoc group of local black gay activists as one of the official organizing committees for the event. http://www.newyorkblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=2251<BR/><BR/>2. Despite anti-gay statements made by Farrakhan, some black gay and lesbian leaders have requested time to speak at the event to no avail. Instead, gay advocates will stage a "We Are Family United Weekend," a parallel gathering near the Mall, said Ray Daniels of the National Black Justice Coalition.<BR/>http://p129.news.scd.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051009/ap_on_re_us/katrina_civil_rights<BR/><BR/>3.<BR/>“(Farrakhan) started off by saying the march was to address problems in the black community as a whole,” Washington said. “We said homophobia was a major issue in the black community and there was a need to address it from the platform.” http://www.gmax.co.za/look05/09/14-millionman.html<BR/><BR/>4.Farrakhan needs to step forward and set the record straight on the inclusion of gays and lesbians in the Millions More Movement. Black gays and lesbians are going to attend the anniversary march regardless of what of Wilson and Farrakhan do or don’t do. The organizing has already begun. If you wait for tomorrow, tomorrow comes; if you don’t wait for tomorrow, tomorrow comes. http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid19054.asp<BR/><BR/>WHIPPED PUPPY.DL Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10646672420003320521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13645667.post-1129326683544535052005-10-14T17:51:00.000-04:002005-10-14T17:51:00.000-04:00Gay activists hounded, branded, cajoled, threatene...<I>Gay activists hounded, branded, cajoled, threatened and wept angry tears until finally Farrakhan gave in.</I><BR/><BR/>What a complete mischaracterization. Did you even READ the article? How do you explain this... <BR/><BR/><I>Farrakhan told a story of a close family friend who he believed was gay and said the man had been welcome in his family for years. "He sits at my table and eats with my family but I never ask him," he said. "If he said to us that he was openly gay, it would not make any difference," said Farrakhan.<BR/><BR/>He also said no one should discriminate against gays and lesbians because they "chose" a particular "lifestyle." In response, Pannell corrected the minister. "I was born this way, Minister Farrakhan." The Nation of Islam leader said he was new to the terminology because he had not spoken to gays and lesbians who were open about their sexual orientation. "I said something that you might correct me on and educate me on," he acknowledged, adding "I am anxious to know your mind, your heart, your spirit."</I><BR/><BR/>As for the ADF, they disapprove because of the involvement of Malik Zulu Shabazz, leader of the New Black Panther Party, as the march’s co-convener who is regarded by some as anti-Semitic and racist. <BR/><BR/>Whenever will you stop making silly arguments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com